Michael: Do you want to be the best, the hardest in the world, or do you want to be rock solid within yourself? Are you trying to be the best or your best?ĭavid: I’m trying to be my best. Doing the thing that is difficult to do for a greater cause, that’s how you build courage. Michael: I think that courage can be developed, and the way that you develop courage is putting yourself in challenging situations and choosing to act nobly. I didn’t want to jump out of an airplane, but I didn’t want to live knowing I was scared to be great. You have to believe that you have control of your life. You have to believe in something, whether it’s God yourself. Michael: Okay, so how do you have the courage to change?ĭavid: You have to find out what you truly want in life. Michael: You couldn’t, you didn’t know how. I saw a weak human being, and all I wanted to do was change the reflection in that mirror. Every morning at 16 years old I would look in that dirty mirror and all I saw was a liar. You can lie to other people all day long, but you can’t lie to yourself. I was beat down mentally, I had zero self-esteem. Michael: Why “hard”? Why is that the virtue that you care so much about?ĭavid: I care so much about it because growing up, I honestly believed I was the softest human being that God ever created. I’m going to set this journey out to be me, and wherever that ends up, that’s where it ends up.” I said to myself, “You know what, I’m going to be the hardest guy God ever created. I will become relevant in my own mind.” And that’s what I did. Instead of looking at my life as, “Oh my God, I graduated 213 out of 214 in my class, and the KKK marched on a 4th of July parade,” I said, “If I can become the hardest man God ever created, that will mean something. The challenge to be great was hard for me, but that’s what I needed. Instead of being a victim, you need to say, ‘Thank you God for giving me this life, because now I’m going to turn it upside down.’” I realized instead of feeling sorry for myself, I had to say to myself, “The only person that’s going to control your destiny is you, and what you have to do is change the way you think. I was blaming everybody for how I came up. Mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, I had nothing. What was that environment like?ĭavid: David Goggins was the kid that was bullied, that had an abusive father, that didn’t go to school, whose soon-to-be stepfather got murdered. Michael: I want to start with what it was like when you were growing up. He recently hosted David on the Finding Mastery podcast to discuss how David pulled himself out of a deep depression, took charge of his own life, and became perhaps the hardest man on Earth. Michael Gervais is a high performance psychologist working closely with sports MVP’s, internationally acclaimed artists, and Fortune 25 CEO’s. Having completed multiple ultra-marathons, triathlons, ultra-triathlons, and more, he is considered one of the world’s greatest endurance athletes. Army Ranger School, and Air Force tactical air controller training. Armed Forces to complete Navy SEAL training, the U.S. How to develop lasting mental toughnessĭavid Goggins is the only member of the U.S.How David Goggins ran for 39 hours-nonstop.
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